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"Turkeys of Death" by EmmerekEntertainment - Reviewed on November 24th, 2009

Unique and funny, mixing turkey into your parody of zombie cliche. The dialogue and music really sell the melodrama, and the use of good sound effects completes the environment.

That shot that you zoomed in - it looks like the last frame didn't get zoomed in, adding a little glitch to the video. I assume you zoomed it in to better frame the shot, which looks good, but obviously it would look better to get the shot right before the editing.

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"Talking Turkey" by Benton Tarantella Films - Reviewed on November 24th, 2009

First of all, I'm so happy to see you two and Rex's voice!

Second, we must be on the same wavelength, because we practically made the same video. Buying turkey. Talking turkey. Puppet turkey. Painful punchline. Are we awesome for making "talking turkey" work literally, or terribly uncreative?

Great story, and everything looks wonderful, except for my couple nit-picky things: Like Justin said, white balance (assuming your camera does) - looked a little yellow. (I actually had a shot in mine I forgot to balance, but you can turn up the blue in editing to help cool the color.) Visually, I like the cut to black to show the passing of time, but the cut in the audio seems jarring to me. (I thought the video ended.) Would be smoother if the music continued? (I don't know.)

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"Thanksgiving Tradition" by Clarity Prevails Productions - Reviewed on November 24th, 2009

Did you notice that all the heavyweights (thus far) went with the death/gore angle? What's wrong with us? I'll chalk it up to still being in the Halloween storytelling mindset.

Great audio and shot composition/variety. The whole thing is really well laid out.

I don't know how explicit you want to be with the baby foreshadowing, but the 2 black and white shots don't scream "absence of baby" as much as I think they could. The first one, especially with the screen and baby doll - for all I know the baby is in there. That's the only place I see that could be stronger.

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"Turkey Lover" by Rough Cut Boston - Reviewed on November 24th, 2009

Shooting in a living room often creates some awfully boring images, but your shot composition, lighting (right?), and I'm assuming color/contrast correction produced beautiful stuff (plus it helps that the room isn't eggshell).

The only part of this video that doesn't match the quality is the audio, which sounds distant. Was that the onboard camera mic? Do you have a way to get a mic closer?

That exploding body effect is awesome, and is integrated seamlessly into the real environment. For that shot, did you use motion tracking, or did you shoot on a tripod and simulate the handheld camera in the editing (to match the effect to the shot movement)?

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Replied on November 24th, 2009

Hey man. Thanks for watching! This is our first fight and we did the shoot real short notice, so we didnt have time to rent mics and lights. I agree that the sound is terrible haha and yes we did use an onboard. I used some color correction in after effects to get the orange and yellow to really pop. We did shoot on a tripod and added the camera wiggle after. Thanks again for the input, this site is awesome....until I get my first, "hate review" haha.

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Replied on November 24th, 2009

Even if you sound is awful, it's too bad you didn't do any ADR - there weren't too many lines and it woudn't have been too tricky. Understand it sounds like a last second kinda thing.

I always find that if I'm dealing with audio issues, I get one take shot very close to my actors so at least I can dub in the good audio later. That's what I did with our sometimes funny "VAIDS" entry and it actually worked out great.

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"Turkey: The Rap" by F.A.S.T.films - Reviewed on November 26th, 2009

Awesome video, Jeremy. It looks like lots of effort went in, and it paid off. Great lyrics and cutaways. Perfect idea for a 30-second fight.

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"Holiday Hunting" by Glossy Finish Pictures - Reviewed on November 26th, 2009

Like Justin said, you can hear that one line repeated ("I don't need this"), and the visual edit starts too early, because we can see him start his walking again. If you tightened that up for continuity, there's no reason you'd have to use both audio tracks, so pick either one. Especially since his head is off-camera during that line, you can manipulate the audio however you want and the audience wouldn't know.

Obviously it should be shorter, but not just because of the time limit. I think more organization and script preparation in the pre-planning and a tighter pace could make this more engaging.

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Replied on November 27th, 2009

Not a bad story, could benefit from a re-edit. Good effort dudes.

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"Todd The Turkey" by Jesse Gilbert Films - Reviewed on November 26th, 2009

Everything I see from you, I think, this guy has a graphic design eye, which is something many video people (to their detriment) lack. I'd love to see what you can do with a little more story and production involved.

The audio level of the voice over should be higher, to overcome the ambient sound effects (which I'm glad you thought to include). Also, you can hear a little distortion on the "exploded" line, because the recording levels were too high (peaked to the red line).

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"Regarding Turkey" by deadfrogsociety films - Reviewed on November 26th, 2009

I think the only thing that held you back was not using all 30 seconds to take the audience on more of a journey. The shot composition is wonderful (and wonderfully simple), and the dialogue is certainly interesting, but it doesn't provide the level of story arc that many of the other entries have. It feels more like a snippet of something longer - like we're missing part of it by only seeing this segment.

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Replied on November 27th, 2009

I agree, this should be in the heavyweight section if solely based on the film itself (fair enough it was ten secs under). Well edited, great dialogue as Justin pointed out and genuinely funny - very tongue n' cheek.

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"Doug's Thanksgiving" by Speeding Turtles - Reviewed on November 26th, 2009

I love all the quick shots at the open - it rises you above the usual amateur editing style. The end is a good punchline, and I think the voice over was used well.

The only thing that really stuck out to me to be lacking is, like Justin said, is what's called "nat sound." Even if it's quiet, audiences expect audio to line up with what they're seeing. And if you don't like the real nat sound, you can always fill in room tone (record some ambient sound when the room is quiet, which is different than silence, and helps the audience understand they haven't left the room). Or, fill it in with sound effects or fake ambiance.

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Replied on November 27th, 2009

Yeah, I really regret taking out that audio. In the future, I will do what you suggested.

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"Fowl Play" by Mad Cow Film Corporation - Reviewed on November 26th, 2009

Lots of aesthetically interesting shots, but the focus of many gets lost (it's hard to tell what the audience is supposed to learn from some shots). For instance, the final shot looks awesome, like Justin said, but I have no idea what I'm looking at - what it means that that hand is sticking out. So I think if you can take this type of pace and these kinds of shots, but plan sequences that better get a point across, you'll be golden.

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Replied on November 26th, 2009

Thank you for your criticism, I'll try and do what you say next time. By the way, my brothers and my dad really like your video.

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"Happy Thanksgiving" by Group Gonzo - Reviewed on November 28th, 2009

Again, so many of us went the dark route with this fight; we're a bunch of sinister people!

You pulled off the "Cloverfield" approach well, and the awesome turkey animation was a great payoff.

Even though the white noise static was well done, it kind of reminds me of answering machines (instead of voicemail) in movies - outdated, but we still use it because it's easier to convey its meaning to the audience. I wonder if there's an effective way to pull off this home movie feel with a digital tape/hard drive look, instead of static. (This is more of a conversation point than criticism.) Nice work!

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Replied on November 28th, 2009

Wow, you read my mind. I was annoyed with the static effect but, like you say, it's acceptable for the audience to see as they'll understand exactly what's happening. The only thing that occurs when there's a gap in digital tape is that it cuts to blue, folk watching would scream and shout at this and may even throw something at their monitor or TV. So you're right, better keep em happy until someone figures out a more acceptable cut format. Thanks everyone :)

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